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Greensplaining, why more ice cream means, the world gets warmer.
The extent of the Antarctic Meereis is 17% higher today than 1979. Ice is not lying
– Tony Heller (@Tonyclimate) December 25, 2024
This tweet by Tony seems to have touched the media grasses of the establishment.
“The expansion of the Antarctic sea ice is 17% higher than in 1979. ICE is not lying, but climate researchers,” says the text.
An NSIDC spokesman informed Reuters by e -mail that the expansion of the Antarctic sea ice on December 24, 1979 was 7.38 million square kilometers and on December 24, 2024 8.28 million square kilometers. This is an increase of 12.2%.
Source Reuters / Tony Heller
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However, NSIDC data also show that in most days in 1979 compared to the days in 2024 it was opened by Tail new Tab -Antarctic Sea ice in most days.
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“It would be a bit like saying that they won the first game of the year in 2025 in 2025, but it got better even if they were in the league in 2025 and the top The league in 2020, ”she said.
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The Antarctic sea ice is particularly variable and has opposed the attempts to combine its long-term trend with climate change, said the NSIDC spokesman.
“In the absence of a clear climate reason for the change, many scientists regarded the oceanic changes as the cause.”
However, uncertainties about the relationship of the Antarctic sea ice to the global temperatures are not an appreciation for climate change worldwide.
The screen said: “Even if sea ice returns in Antarctic, it does not refute other indicators of climate change. The heating of oceans, melting glaciers and the dramatic loss of the Arctic sea ice are just a few of the many signs of a warming planet. “
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Read more: https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/cherry-picked-antarctic-eic-data-does-not-disprove-cimate-cange-2025-02-11/
Tony Heller replied to this “fact check” by Reuters.
Total BS from @reuters. Ten years ago, the Antarctic sea ice was on a record high, and the same government #Climatecam experts tried to accuse global warming. https://t.co/a3kthcujzo https://t.co/axwl4drhyu pic.twitter.com/zhulqibuc7
– Tony Heller (@Tonyclimate) February 11, 2025
When she mentioned uncertainty and variability of sea ice, Reuters forgot that the record of the Antarctic Sea ice cream had blamed global warming in 2014.
Antarctic winter expansion of the sea is set up a new record in 2014
Rated by Michon Scott from Ted Scambos
Published on October 7, 2014
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It is not inappropriate to ask how if the planet is heated up, the Antarctic Winter Sea ice can set up record highs. As the NSIDC release explains, the growth thrust of the Antarctic Sea ice cream can be attributed to stronger winds and slightly fresher water surface water on the edges of the melting ice shells of the continent.
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The winds probably did not react alone to inspire so much sea ice growth. The melting of Landeis may have played a role. Most of the Antarctic ice cream lies in the ice sheets that cover the continent, and This ice has melted in recent decades. The ice bowl floats along the coast on the surface of the sea, and a large part of the youngest melt can be driven out of the deep ocean by warm water and contacted with ice skating subside.
What is the melting from land ice to sea ice formation? The resulting melting water is fresher than the sea water. While it mixes with the sea water, the melting water makes the nearby sea water a little less tight and a little closer to freezing than the lower sea water below. This less dense sea water spreads over the sea surface surrounding the continent and forms a stable pool of surface water that is close to freezing, and near the ice cream on which it can freeze.
So As contragutu and growing winter antiquatis -sea ice on a warming planet occur, It can actually be A manifestation of the latest warming. “Both the Arctic and Antarctic are reacting to climate change and both areas that warm up quickly,” explains the senior scientist from NSIDC, Ted Scambos. “But the Antarctic sea ice is unexpectedly reacting to wind shifts and ocean changes, and we are still trying to understand it completely.”
References:
2014 melting season in reviews
Melt in the north, frozen in the south
Read more: https://www.climate.gov/newsfeatatures/feated-images/antarctic-winter-sea-eic-extent-sets-new-record-2014
“It can actually be” does not fill me with a feeling of certainty.
If the melting of land ice in Antarctica the sea ice to the climax of the peak of fresh water ice to the climax of the saliny of the neighboring sea water, why not melting land ice in the Arctic sea ice to a climax? Or does the Schmelzlandeis only work in southern latitudes? It is all very good to talk about the southern ocean that is larger, but should the concentration of the nearby land ice cream not merge in the inland -market ocean, which forms even more sea ice?
If sea ice is so badly understood and variable and the connection to global warming is so ambiguous, why have we subjected to years of claims that the global warming, which has been out of control, will flood all coastal cities and melt the polar ice caps?
Climategate 2 e -Mail 0700.txt (20/03/1998):
EC meeting for the archor of the polar climate research
Copenhagen 12.-13. March 1998
DISCUSSION
For future challenges for the polar regions
Discussion Panel: A Ghazi, J. Thiede, O. Orheim
Participants: L Anderson, K Briffa, H Deklaration, M File, Frig, The Hagan Hoel, Jo Hagen, C Hammer, JP Hart Hansen, D Hesselbjerg, K Holmen, K Hutter and Jansen, O Johannnen, J Young People, G. Youth, Korhola, crazy, in Larsen, P Lemke, P Malki, H Biller, Girls, V Pevlenko, S Raper, C RAPLE, D RAYNAUD; N Reeh, O Rogne, B structure, frog, Ith troen, ca Williams, M.Cchellia,
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The interface between science and politics
B Stauffer said science could not prevent global climate change, so science should support sustainability. However, if science can indicate a means of reducing global change, this would show that something could be done and that political decisions would.
J Jouzel said that the truth from the use of models and its validation will be due and that there was a change in the WCRP clivar to have more interest in paleo data. Communication between scientists and politicians is becoming increasingly important and the scientific population has to be large enough to be visible. D Raynaud commented that Stocker's work in 1997 is important for conferences such as Kyoto via the gross emission rate and the change in the thermal cycle. K Hutter added that Politicians accuse scientists of a high signal rush; Scientists must ensure that they find stronger signals. The time frame for science and politics is very different; Politicians need immediate information, but the scientific results take a long time
A Ghazi pointed out that the financing would be determined as soon as the politicians are supposed to create research. We have to understand that we do not understand the climate system. Kyoto was a compromise and the EC accepted the pollution levels that were not accepted by all members. At the next meeting in Buenos Aires in November 1998 we have to learn how to approach the USA. The United States wants to buy the 30% of emissions that are not achieved in Russia. This emission trade is not acceptable. However, the United States argues that if the EC acts in itself, this can do so. However, the EC will achieve an emission reduction of 6-8
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From Climategate E -Mail 0700.txt
Politicians who control research funds, put the scientists under pressure, to provide “stronger signals”, raise obvious concerns -even though the scientists in the e -mail decided to clarify the politicians about the work of science.
One thing seems to be clear. Regardless of what you read, hear or see in the media, nobody really understands the global climate system, especially when it comes to the behavior of Polar -Sea ice.
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